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Donald Trump's Immunity Con | Sean Wilentz | The New York Review of Books
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2024/05/01/the-immunity-con-donald-trump/
Donald Trump's Immunity Con | Sean Wilentz | The New York Review of Books
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2024/05/01/the-immunity-con-donald-trump/
Special counsel urges Supreme Court to reject Trump’s immunity claim
Special counsel Jack Smith on Monday urged the Supreme Court to reject Donald Trump’s “novel and sweeping” claim that he is immune from criminal prosecution on charges of conspiring to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
“The President’s constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed does not entail a general right to violate them,” Smith said in his office’s main brie…
'Profoundly ahistorical': 4-star generals side with Jack Smith, tell Supreme Court Trump's immunity claims are 'assault' on democracy (Brandi Buchman/Law & Crime)
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/profoundly-ahistorical-4-star-generals-side-with-jack-smith-tell-supreme-court-trumps-immunity-claims-are-assault-on-democracy/
http://www.memeorandum.com/240408/p73#a240408p73
'Profoundly ahistorical': 4-star generals side with Jack Smith, tell Supreme Court Trump's immunity claims are 'assault' on democracy (Brandi Buchman/Law & Crime)
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/profoundly-ahistorical-4-star-generals-side-with-jack-smith-tell-supreme-court-trumps-immunity-claims-are-assault-on-democracy/
http://www.memeorandum.com/240408/p73#a240408p73
Well, ended up down a legal rabbit hole - thanks to Geoffrey Robertson KC’s comments on a case in Victoria, where two First Australian men abused by Catholic priests are bringing a damages claim against - amongst others - Pope Francis (https://www.
“Why Do I Keep Getting COVID-19 But Those Around Me Don’t? - TIME “ https://apple.news/AbVT17vntRg2wVQgJH-_Eqg
It makes sense that imperfect behavioral prevention becomes less relevant as the virus has become more infectious, and immunity factors (genetic and dynamic) become…
They'll try to use qualified immunity as an excuse, but this is just another #BreonnaTaylor
Police shoot and kill Black US airman in Florida home | Florida | The Guardian
https://www.<…
The Supreme Court and the Constitution were never going to save us from Donald Trump - Vox https://www.vox.com/scotus/24086594/donald-trump-supreme-court-trial-immunity-never-going-to-save-us
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How do you think the SC will decide on Trump's immunity claims? That's coming up soon isn't it?
Excess talent at TE will force the Cowboys into tough decisions https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/excess_talent_at_te_will_force_the_cowboys_into_tough_decisions/s1_17100_40335617
This is what happens when the Democrats take their eyes off the ball for a few decades: buy yourself a Supreme Court
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/apr/25/supreme-court-trump-immunity-biden-latest-updates
The courts were never going to save America from Donald Trump
No one is coming to save US democracy, except for ourselves.
#USPolitics
https://www.vox…
The Media’s Coverage of Trump’s Immunity Case Has Been Appalling | The Nation
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/media-supreme-court-trump-immunity/
👍 New York judge denies Trump’s immunity claim in hush money case | The Independent
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-trial-hush-money-immunity-merchan-b2522961.html
This https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.13633 has been replaced.
initial toot: https://mastoxiv.page/@arXiv_qbi…
Judge Luttig blasts SCOTUS for avoiding ‘key question’ at the heart of Trump immunity case
https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/judge-luttig-blasts-scotus-for-avoiding-key-question-at-th…
Michael Waldman, president of the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, is among those who have excoriated the US supreme court for even appearing to entertain Donald Trump v United States, the former president’s appeal in his federal election subversion case, in which he claims presidents are immune from prosecution for acts committed in office.
👍 New York judge denies Trump’s immunity claim in hush money case | The Independent
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-trial-hush-money-immunity-merchan-b2522961.html
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I just learned that Trump's immunity case is not the same thing as the case about throwing off the ballot. Here's why I think today's Supreme Court decision was correct....(1/73)<…
Clarence Thomas's conflict is clear -- he must recuse himself from the Trump immunity case (Austin Sarat/The Hill)
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4501934-clarence-thomass-conflict-is-clear-he-must-recuse-himself-from-the-trump-immunity-case/
http://www.memeorandum.com/240304/p20#a240304p20
🤔 I wonder what Dark Brandon has planned when presidential immunity is unleashed. 😎
:mastodon:
Just using my mind, I can classify Trump as mentally insane.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/23/donald-trump-presidential-immunity-argument-dismissal-push-classified-nuclear-…
I'm getting a lot of mileage out of following the podcast "Prosecuting Donald Trump." I don't get half of the legal detail, but it sure makes it clear what to expect.
For example, today's verdict was no big surprise, whereas SCOTUS taking the immunity case, was a bit of an unexpected blow (if I understood correctly).
If you just looked at (left-wing) social media, you would get the complete opposite impression.
Why are we even having a discussion about whether former president Donald Trump’s sweeping claims of immunity are justified?
Didn’t we fight the Revolutionary War in part because we didn’t want to be governed by an all-powerful king?
Somehow, we’ve traveled far from our original vision and ended up with a former president who wants to be seen as a supreme monarch and as a law unto himself with unlimited powers.
Incredibly, the Supreme Court (including its staunchly origi…
Alabama governor signs #IVF bill giving patients, providers legal cover - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/03/06/alabama-gove…
People ask when I’ll stop wearing a mask and I tell them, “when a nasal vaccine confers sterilizing immunity, I can stop masking.”
Supreme Court immunity arguments: The court just showed how and why it will let Donald Trump get away with it. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/supreme-court-immunity-arguments-which-way-now.html
Meaning Biden should be able to send Donny to a black site forever w/o consequence, right?
The GUARDIAN: Presidents should have immunity for acts taken in office, Donny's lawyers say – including attempts to overturn 2020 election results
https://www.theguardian.…
Biden should test Trump's theory of presidential immunity by deploying seal team six on his ass.
Well, *no wonder* he didn't do his very best when the Special Council interviewed him - it was the two days after Hamas attacked Israel...
WATCH LIVE: Biden to address nation - National Zero
https://nationalzero.com/2024/02/08/watch-live-biden-to-…
Judge Won't Delay Trump's Criminal Trial to Wait for Immunity Ruling (New York Times)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/03/nyregion/trump-merchan-immunity-ruling.html
http://www.memeorandum.com/240403/p65#a240403p65
"Operating under often permissive rules that vary by department, and with immunity from serious punishment in most cases, officers routinely launch chases that begin with a low-level crime — or no crime whatsoever — and end with a violent wreck. At least 551 bystanders died in chases over six years"
https://www.
The worst part is finding out that the radical right wingers on the Court have quite obviously lost the plot.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/supreme-court-trump-immunity-arguments-alito-maga.html
CDC guideline foolishness
"CDC Director Dr. Mandy Cohen said the agency is changing its guidance because most of the US population has some immunity against Covid and, as a result, the country is no longer seeing large waves of infections, hospitalizations and deaths from the coronavirus. ... the nation reaches a kind of steady state with the virus."
"Steady state" of decay, maybe.
Respect to Dr Eric Topol for saying the words "Long Covid" in this article.
#CDC #covid
How Project 2025 Creates A Christian Dictatorship: It starts with giving Trump immunity to kill anyone.
https://thedemlabs.org/2024/04/28/project-2025-christian-dictatorship-presidentialimmunity-to-kill-rivals/
Maybe the final chapter in the gong--show that is America will involve an existing President shooting an ex-President on Fifth Avenue, and getting away with it because he has immunity.
Someone requested some good news…
“The idea is that we can attach any molecule we want to pGal and it will teach the immune system to tolerate it,” explained Hubbell. “Rather than rev up immunity as with a vaccine, we can tamp it down in a very specific way with an inverse vaccine.”
#autoimmunity #vaccines #inversevaccines
There are two reasons the SCOTUS needs to either immediately hear the arguments about presidential immunity or not agree to hear it at all.
1) The American voters need to know if Trump broke the law.
2) Biden needs to know if he can legally assassinate Trump while he is still in office.
If you think the second one is absurd, then you have a better grasp of the US Constitution than the SCOTUS.
#uspol
Why legal experts are paying attention to 'the first 29' words of SCOTUS’ immunity decision: report - Alternet.org
https://www.alternet.org/legal-experts-scotus-immunity-decision/
As SCOTUS continues to play TFG's game of sillybugger, let's not lose sight of the fact that Trump only cares about himself and only cares sbout immunity for himself.
Nothing would be so perfect to him as an immunity law so narrow as to apply only to him.
Jail is too good for TFG, but it's a step in a good direction.
Vote for Democracy!
The Supreme Court saves Trump's bacon (Liz Dye/Public Notice)
https://www.publicnotice.co/p/supreme-court-trump-immunity-explained
http://www.memeorandum.com/240304/p10#a240304p10
Trump threatens to prosecute Bidens if he’s re-elected unless he gets immunity
Donald Trump has threatened that Joe Biden and his family could face multiple criminal prosecutions once he leaves office
unless the US supreme court awards Trump immunity in his own legal battles with the criminal justice system.
In a sweeping interview with Time magazine, Trump painted a startling picture of his second term, from how he would wield the justice department to hinting he may let …
Speaking of vaccines, this could be very important. https://mag.uchicago.edu/science-medicine/fine-tuning-immunity
Trump wants to be able to officially order the US Navy’s Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival and face no repercussions.
Former president’s lawyers urge US supreme court to dismiss election interference case https://www.theguardian.com/us-…
Yes, a president that imprisoned the opposition would require that that president get a glitzy, overdone military uniform with lots of gaudy medals and a big hat with lots of gold braid.
I raise the possibility because admitting that that extreme thing could be done under a rule of immunity also admits that many lesser things, things more subtle and less visible to the public, would also be possible, and protected by immunity.
Trump’s lawyers don’t expect the Supreme Court to bless his absurd immunity claims.
“We already pulled off the heist,” says a source close to Trump
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-featu…
Supreme Court narrows the lens as it takes up Trump's immunity claim (Lawrence Hurley/NBC News)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-narrows-lens-takes-trumps-immunity-claim-rcna141155
http://www.memeorandum.com/240229/p79#a240229p79
Nixon White House lawyer flags case that proves Trump has 'no criminal immunity' - Raw Story
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-john-dean-nixon-no-criminal-immunity/
I figured that today might be a good day for a ruling on immunity and voting and all that stuff, but all I found was the fact that Clarence has a deal happening.
https://www.theonion.com/clarence-thomas-announces-50-discount-on-all-favora…
Justice delayed — which is guaranteed by the SCOTUS actions and has no legitimate basis given the questions today — is justice denied.
What good are justices that deny justice?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/supreme…
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As a conservative, I believe that no one is above the law. Here’s why Trump should be granted complete immunity for all of his crimes.
Trump's Team 'Literally Popping Champagne' Over Supreme Court Taking Up Immunity Claim (Rolling Stone)
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-team-celebrating-supreme-court-immunity-decision-1234978336/
http://www.memeorandum.com/240229/p90#a240229p90
The Supreme Court’s conservatives often accuse liberals of inventing provisions nowhere to be found in the Constitution. Now, the fingers are pointed in the other direction.
At the attention-grabbing arguments this week over Donald Trump’s claim of sweeping presidential immunity from criminal prosecution, the six-member conservative bloc seemed largely unconcerned by a key flaw in Trump’s theory:
Nothing in the Constitution explicitly mentions the concept of presidential immunit…
Clarence Thomas to decide if #Trump has immunity for the coup attempt his own wife planned - Boing Boing
https://boingboing.net/2024/02/29/clarence-thom…
Yes, a president that imprisoned the opposition would require that that president get a glitzy, overdone military uniform with lots of gaudy medals and a big hat with lots of gold braid.
I raise the possibility because admitting that that extreme thing could be done under a rule of immunity also admits that many lesser things, things more subtle and less visible to the public, would also be possible, and protected by immunity.
Despite a total lack of legal precedent and universal rejection by lower courts, the MAGA Justices on the Supreme Court decided to hear Trump’s claims of absolute presidential immunity.
Supreme Court to weigh Trump's immunity claim in D.C. 2020 election trial (Ann E. Marimow/Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/02/28/trump-supreme-court-immunity-claim-dc-trial/
http://www.memeorandum.com/240228/p94#a240228p94
Supreme Court Shows How Corrupt It Is By Hearing Trump Immunity Claim (Jason Easley/PoliticusUSA)
https://www.politicususa.com/2024/02/28/supreme-court-trump-immunity-corrupt.html
http://www.memeorandum.com/240228/p107#a240228p107
Supreme court hears arguments in Trump’s presidential immunity case – live
Liberal justice Sonia Sotomayor sounded sharply skeptical of John Sauer’s arguments as she harkened back to the country’s early days in exploring the situations where a president could be prosecuted.
Referring to amicus, or “friend of the court”, briefs filed in the case by outside groups, Sotomayor said:
"There are amica here who tell us that the founders actually talked about whether to grant …
Former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann also chimed in: "Still hasn't occurred to Flatulence J. Trump that if Biden has presidential immunity he could arrest and detain without trial, Trump, his family, and every one of his supporters and never face consequences. Oh and cancel the election. You want to play this game, MAGA? You lose."
'This is a threat': Legal experts shred Trump's latest plea for full presidential immunity - Raw Story
The Unhinged Arguments the Supreme Court Is Fielding on Trump Immunity (Jose Pagliery/The Daily Beast)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-unhinged-arguments-the-supreme-court-is-fielding-on-trump-immunity
http://www.memeorandum.com/240330/p2#a240330p2
Justice Alito ponders whether threat of prosecuting presidents would undermine ‘stable, democratic society’ – live
“The stable democratic society needs the good faith of its public officials, correct?” Sotomayor asked.
“Absolutely,” special counsel’s office attorney Michael Dreeben replied.
“And that good faith assumes that they will follow the law?” the justice continued.
“Correct,” Dreeben said.
Then Sotomayor made her point:
Now, putting that aside, there …
Supreme Court immunity arguments: The court just showed how and why it will let Donald Trump get away with it.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/supreme-court-immunity-arguments-which-way-now.html?via=rss…
Justice Alito ponders whether threat of prosecuting presidents would undermine ‘stable, democratic society’ – live
“The stable democratic society needs the good faith of its public officials, correct?” Sotomayor asked.
“Absolutely,” special counsel’s office attorney Michael Dreeben replied.
“And that good faith assumes that they will follow the law?” the justice continued.
“Correct,” Dreeben said.
Then Sotomayor made her point:
Now, putting that aside, there …
Guess who got it thrown back in his face:
Trump appears to undercut his own defense in new rant: 'So you don't want full immunity?' - Raw Story
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-undercuts-immunity-truth-social/
🕒 May 20th is the deadline for SCOTUS to throw out the immunity claim so Trump finally faces a jury of everyday Americans for his criminal conspiracy to overthrow the will of the voters. #JusticeCantWait
Live Updates: Supreme Court to Hear Trump's Claim to 'Absolute Immunity' (Adam Liptak/New York Times)
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/25/us/trump-immunity-supreme-court
http://www.memeorandum.com/240425/p22#a240425p22
Judge rejects ‘qualified immunity’ for officers sued for allegedly hogtying man who died after being placed face down in police SUV
https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/judge-
Supreme Court appears open to some presidential immunity for Trump, risking delays (The Hill)
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4621749-supreme-court-justices-skeptical-of-sweeping-immunity-claims-by-trump/
http://www.memeorandum.com/240425/p66#a240425p66
GOP scholars put Supreme Court on notice not to 'waste its time' on Trump immunity: expert - Raw Story
https://www.rawstory.com/gop-scholars-trump-supreme-court-immunity/
The Supreme Court and the Constitution were never going to save us from Donald Trump
The Supreme Court has ordered the most important of Trump’s four criminal trials to be put on hold indefinitely.
It’s an extraordinary victory for Trump and a devastating blow to the nation.
The Court’s decision also raises serious doubts about whether these justices will allow a trial to take place before the November election.
Trump's 'Crazy' Argument for Immunity Heads to the High Court (Ankush Khardori/Politico)
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/24/trumps-crazy-argument-for-immunity-heads-to-the-high-court-00153954
http://www.memeorandum.com/240424/p53#a240424p53
The Supreme Court and the Constitution were never going to save us from Donald Trump
The Supreme Court has ordered the most important of Trump’s four criminal trials to be put on hold indefinitely.
It’s an extraordinary victory for Trump and a devastating blow to the nation.
The Court’s decision also raises serious doubts about whether these justices will allow a trial to take place before the November election.
Trump immunity claim taken up by Supreme Court, keeping D.C. 2020 election trial paused - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immunity-ruling-supreme-court/
Supreme Court sets April arguments over whether Trump can be prosecuted for election interference (Mark Sherman/Associated Press)
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-immunity-election-interference-trial-ff4b251967b4f1ae85bd01a0db24931f
http://www.memeorandum.com/240228/p93#a240228p93
Luttig: There was no reason for SCOTUS to take Trump's case. Today's decision is momentous. (MSNBC)
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/supreme-court-agree-to-hear-trump-immunity-case-judge-luttig-and-andrew-weissmann-react-live-205129797993
http://www.memeorandum.com/240228/p106#a240228p106
Supreme Court seems poised to allow Trump Jan. 6 trial, but not soon enough.
Conservative and liberal justices grappled with the historic significance of a case that will primarily immediately impact the 2024 election
https://www.washingtonpost.co…
"Respectfully, I’d suggest this may be a great time to dust off his identification of Trump’s six main co-conspirators and roll out indictments against each of them. None were president so, even if Trump did have “total immunity for life,” they are all vulnerable to immediate prosecution."
It's time to hold co-conspirator Ginni Thomas accountable - Alternet.org
Supreme Court seems poised to allow Trump Jan. 6 trial, but not soon enough.
Conservative and liberal justices grappled with the historic significance of a case that will primarily immediately impact the 2024 election
https://www.washingtonpost.co…
The Court Just Sealed Everyone's Fate, Including Its Own (Brynn Tannehill/New Republic)
https://newrepublic.com/article/181032/supreme-court-trump-immunity-sealed-fate
http://www.memeorandum.com/240426/p55#a240426p55
The Court Just Sealed Everyone's Fate, Including Its Own (Brynn Tannehill/New Republic)
https://newrepublic.com/article/181032/supreme-court-trump-immunity-sealed-fate
http://www.memeorandum.com/240426/p55#a240426p55
Former judge J. Michael Luttig with record of knowing what’s next predicts Trump Supreme Court verdict - Alternet.org
https://www.alternet.org/trump-luttig/
Majority in US reject Trump's immunity claim, including half of Republicans (Martin Pengelly/The Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/18/trump-immunity-claim-poll
http://www.memeorandum.com/240318/p105#a240318p105
Majority in US reject Trump's immunity claim, including half of Republicans (Martin Pengelly/The Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/18/trump-immunity-claim-poll
http://www.memeorandum.com/240318/p105#a240318p105
Everything that Donald Trump is filing and doing is a bid to stall for more time.
In a new legal filing in New York, Trump moved to 🔸adjourn the hush money/election interference trial until the Supreme Court rules on his claim of presidential immunity.🔸
Trump’s lawyers wrote, “President Trump respectfully submits that an adjournment of the trial is appropriate to await further guidance from the Supreme Court, which should facilitate the appropriate application of the presidentia…
Trump threatens to prosecute Bidens if he's re-elected unless he gets immunity (Ed Pilkington/The Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/30/trump-second-term-abortion-immigration
http://www.memeorandum.com/240430/p74#a240430p74
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said he stands by comments he made in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol that former presidents, including Donald Trump, are
"not immune" from criminal prosecution.
https://www.