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The idea that Trump or MAGA is in any sense “anti-war” is something between an absurdity and a misunderstanding.
At one level it’s a simple fraud.
Trump claimed he’d always been against the Iraq War at a time when the U.S. had been bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.
It was a helpful attack line and it was completely false.
Trump wasn’t in politics in 2002 or 2003 and to the extent he said anything, like a lot of people, he was for it when it was popular an…

There seem to be constant reminders of the disastrous mistakes that led up to the most catastrophic American foreign policy decision in recent memory -- the war on Iraq.
Despite the costly lessons of the past and the flashing warning signs before us today,
Trump seems poised to press the button on joining Israel’s attack on Iran.
Doing so could be an even bigger mistake.
The echoes are numerous:
A complete disregard for international law and diplomatic alternativ…

There are far more ways for an air strike on Iran to go wrong than for it to go the way it is being sold to Trump.
The illegal attack launched by Israel against Iran already set off a war that raises the stakes -- and brings the U.S. increasingly closer to getting directly involved -- even if it doesn’t strike.
But if it does strike, it sets off a series of consequences that likely lead to a long, drawn-out commitment with no clear exit strategy, again.
An American strike…

@annsev@troet.cafe
2025-06-16 09:51:31

I wonder if the claim that Iran wants to develop a #nuclear bomb to destroy Israel is not just as bold a lie as the claim that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.
We know that even the UN - i.e. the world public - is unashamedly lied to if it benefits its own cause.
Powell's lie led to the Iraq war,

@egallager@social.treehouse.systems
2025-06-22 17:00:47

#MastodonPoll: best response to "Iran can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon"? (pick one)
1. "That's why we should have stuck with the JCPOA, which Obama negotiated and Trump blew up. Bombing Iran makes them more likely to seek a nuclear weapon." (redirect)
2. "Actually, they can and should be allowed and even encouraged to have a nuclear weapon." (contradict)
3. "Who are we to allow or disallow Iran from seeking a nuclear weapon?" (disclaim responsibility)
4. "Iran wouldn't have been able to complete a nuclear weapon anyways." (argue mootness)
5. "Do you remember nothing from the run-up to the Iraq War?" (appeal to history)
Redirect to JCPOA
Contradict
Disclaim responsibility
Argue mootness
Appeal to history (Iraq)

In the case of the Iraq war, the administration of George W Bush believed that Saddam Hussein was building weapons of mass destruction, and
– determined to act on that belief
– sought proof of its proposition.
Convinced that he was right,
Bush sought to streamline information that confirmed its bias.
What fell by the wayside were conflicting views.
Because intelligence is ultimately about assessing the likelihood of things which are difficult to know,

A senior Iranian official has told Reuters that Tehran’s retaliatory strikes will continue.
The official added that Iran has the “necessary rationality” to begin efforts at diplomacy after it had punished “the aggressor”.

@chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca
2025-06-22 16:03:07

The echoes of the Iraq war are deafening at this point. How’s Tony Blair doing?
#lies #wmd #nuclear #war #iraqwar #iran #israeliranwar
norfolk.social/@rachel/1147272