@TobiasFrech@ijug.socialWhenever I use an #LLM it really annoys me it's offering multiple choices. So it puts the burden of checking and filtering out invalid responses back on me. It's practically impossible to follow a chain of thought in a conversation. Why did they call it a chat? Probably because it will always stay on the surface of things and never turn into a thoughtful discussion.
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@ErikJonker@mastodon.social
@hex@kolektiva.socialThe thing about training an #LLM on human culture and then renting that culture back isn't that it's "Intellectual Property Theft." There's nothing wrong with sharing. There is something wrong with framing LLMs as piracy. That's a completely different concept.
When a powerful group of people takes the writing, the art, the music, various parts of a culture and then make some bland reproduction that lacks all the meaning and essence in the original, then those powerful people profit off that mess while the people who made the original stuff are erased, marginalized, and made to suffer, there is a different term for that.
The term everyone is looking for is "appropriation."
I'm not saying this is the same as other forms of cultural appropriation, but there are definitely enough shared elements that we should revisit that conversation. Perhaps some folks who thought the idea was silly when the idea first came up may feel differently now.
@avstockhausen@fedihum.orgBookmarked: TEI-NER Pipeline — Automatisches Entity-Linking für historische TEI-Editionen http://tei-llm.histomatiker.de/ #GND #LLM…
@chpietsch@fedifreu.deDebian developer Antoine Le Gonidec just quit the project over its decision not to ban #LLM-assisted code contributions:
Pretending to have a "neutral stance" when faced with fascism is not neutrality, it’s active collaboration.
AI slop is fascism materialized. Stop it whenever you can!
Source:
@crell@phpc.socialWho owns the code that Claude wrote?
#AI
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
@newstik@social.heise.de
@laurentperrinet@neuromatch.social
@a@paperbay.org« Protecting our FLOSS commons from LLMs »
Are we going back to the nineties? It remembers me when some forges disallowed to have compiled binaries for a proprietary operating system.
#llm #ai #freesoftware
@publicvoit@graz.socialThought experiment: if all LLMs would be required to be public domain by law worldwide, would that change acceptance with respect to #copyright ignoring its other downsides such as its huge environmental damage?
#LLM #ai
@seeingwithsound@mas.to @crell@phpc.socialI like people I can vibe with. Not machines to vibe at.
#Programming #AI #LLM
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@jom@social.kontrollapparat.de
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@sofia@chaos.socialoh, here's an interesting #LLM -thing to play with:
https://www.neuronpedia.org/llama3.3-70b-it/nla
basically there's an autoencoder that reads the LLMs internal activations at…
@stf@chaos.socialcan anyone advise good methods to cope with the nagging feeling that the customer i'm chatting with is really just the output of an #llm. i'm most triggered by "you are absolutely correct" and my "excellent observations" and similar sycophantic compliments. i never thought i'd miss the denial and passive anger of traditional vendor responses...
@fathermcgruder@jorts.horse @cwensel@fosstodon.orgI know everyone is about to log off for the long weekend, if they haven't already taken the week off.
But I thought I'd quickly share a little more about what I'm working on.
Please share!
#llm
@thomasrenkert@hcommons.socialfunniest thing in #LLM news. One man's month-long research to uncover the secrets of the Frontier Labs is another man's "hey I wrote this python deep_think script":
https://xcancel.com/_can1357/stat…
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@penguin42@mastodon.org.ukUsing #llm to OCR is...interesting. I've been trying it on an old hand written card; and it does very well on stuff I can only just about read; but the mistakes are way more subtle than trad OCR; e.g. one misread a 'standard 6' rack' as a 'standard 19" rack' (the other said '61 rack' which is more obviously wrong). The same one also turned 'M/coil mike'…
@hex@kolektiva.socialPut in terms that might make sense to people who might disagree, an #LLM is a second order distillation. Reality trains the "models" of cognition via evolution. Those that don't die, evolve emotions to guide them towards or away from things. Humans evolved a complex enough system to construct internal models of reality.
Language jams all this stuff together into a(n extremely lossy) representation for transmitting it to other beings with similar direct access to reality. This becomes the first order distillation of experiential reality. Models trained on that corpus are then second order distillations (they are trained in the artifacts produced by the model trained by reality itself).
A lot of things, like threat modeling, require you to tap into that first order model.
@michabbb@social.vivaldi.net🔬 Grounded in current research on #LLM laziness, underthinking, premature completion and long-horizon agent degradation
🔧 Zero-dependency Node 16 scripts, works with #ClaudeCode, Codex and #Cursor
@crell@phpc.social
@cdamian@rls.socialClaude Code today in an otherwise perfectly normal answer
"The gain would be близко to zero — [...]"
In case you are not proofreading your generated texts.
#AI #ClaudeCode #LLM
@ErikJonker@mastodon.social
@sakhavi@aoir.socialCurrent #LLM-driven degradation of software seems to follow an eternal pattern of humans and #technology, where the former seek the latter as a shortcut through reality and experience any resistance and complexity as loss and insult. In my publications I’ve called this “prelapsarian programming” bc it betray…
@stsquad@mastodon.org.uk @mgorny@social.treehouse.systems @publicvoit@graz.social#Atlassian nutzt alle Kundendaten für das Training von #KI. Wir erinnern uns an die zahlreichen Fälle, wo man aus #LLM teilweise die Trainingsdaten rekonstruieren konnte. 😜
Atlassian: Wer zahlt, bleibt verschont | D…
@frankel@mastodon.top
@nic@geno.social @hex@kolektiva.socialBut I would warn anyone circumventing anti-LLM protections that, as the tide turns against #LLM usage and "#AI" as a whole, that it may become politically useful for some state AGs to score political points. Those political points may come by putting you in prison, or, at the very least, dumping lawyers on you and ruining your life. An AG doesn't need to win to score points for their political party or to virtue signal. All they need to do is build a case against you. Because the CFAA is *so vague* it's easy to make something plausible enough that it won't get thrown out immediately.
So if the gentile "please don't do that" isn't enough, maybe consider this.
@michabbb@social.vivaldi.net🔀 #FreeLLMAPI stacks the free tiers of 29 #LLM providers behind one #OpenAI-compatible /v1 endpoint — ~4 billion tokens per month across 251 model families and 358 endpoints.
@crell@phpc.social
@vosje62@mastodon.nlRE: #LLM
@stsquad@mastodon.org.ukHere is the #theprimeagen making some predictions for the next 6-12 months now the true cost of processing #llm tokens is starting to be felt. I suspect he's going to be vindicated sooner than that. I'm no #aidoomer
@wikonsult@ieji.deIl suffit d’une dizaine de mots publiés au bon endroit sur un site participatif pour manipuler les résultats de recherche de modèles génératifs appuyés sur des systèmes agentiques, constatent trois chercheurs de l’ #université de #Cornell. #LLM
@sakhavi@aoir.social
@sjn@chaos.social @michabbb@social.vivaldi.net @cwensel@fosstodon.orgHaven't had time to blog about it, but I've released a set of skills I use every day to resolve bugs and feed my RDR process with complex features or debt. I pushed them to this repo, ymmv.
https://github.com/cwensel/kata-flight
@crell@phpc.social"The purpose of AI is to give wealth access to skill without giving skill access to wealth."
Well if that's not spot on perfect...
#AI #LLM #GrandTheftAutocomplete
@hw@fediscience.org @crell@phpc.social
@tomkalei@machteburch.socialAnd one more thing on the Jacobian Conjecture.
I am certain that at least 10 if not 100 mathematicians have tried this exact problem in Fable and also gpt-5.6 Sol with everything turned to 11. Why did an Anthropic employee get the result?
Is it a low probability and they can just try and try to play again beyond the limits of us mere customers? Did this guy get lucky?
Are professional mathematicians maybe holding back the AI by inputting their own ideas how to do it??
#llm #math #jacobian
@hex@kolektiva.socialWhen they say "we are entering a new industrial revolution" what they want you to hear is "things that were once expensive will now be cheap," but what they mean is "we will be using the massive economic disruption, that we are creating, to change the world against your will and further shape it towards the interests of a small and powerful minority."
#LLM #AI
@cwensel@fosstodon.orgprotip for arcaneum users
https://github.com/cwensel/arcaneum
> arc log tail --lines 50
to watch and ensure your skill are pulling in research materials (via search) during any design phases or when creating tests.
@crell@phpc.social @mgorny@social.treehouse.systems @michabbb@social.vivaldi.net @crell@phpc.socialBe sure to exclude your repositories from HuggingFace here:
#AI
@jom@social.kontrollapparat.deMy pleasure. 😎
#40c3 Sticker
#AI #LLM #Vibecoding
Sourc…
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@pkraus@berlin.socialYesterday, I was one of four panelists at the annual Emmy Noether Treffen organised by the @… , talking about how we use (generative) #ai in #research.
Here's the thing: I don't.
The mood was surprisingly skeptical with none of my peers being particularly optimistic, highlighting issues with applying #llm to indigenous studies (Walther Maradiegue), dealing with fabricated bibliographies (Daria Elagina), or possibilities of quick fixes to the underlying tech (Michael Roth).
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@crell@phpc.social @michabbb@social.vivaldi.net📋 #FreeToken is an edge-native #MoE serving engine for running frontier-scale open-weight models on personal, consumer hardware #opensource
@tomkalei@machteburch.social @crell@phpc.social @crell@phpc.socialRE: #ai
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsGiven these days you can't even expect #Gentoo contributors to be respectable, I'm working on adding a git hook that rejects commits with #LLM attribution. Could you help me find all the common patterns used to mark LLM-assisted #git commits?
So far I'm checking for author and Co-authored-by using the following e-mail patterns:
• copilot@github.com
• *@anthropic.com
• claude@users.noreply.github.com
• * claude[bot]@users.noreply.github.com
• *@openai.com
• * chatgpt-codex-connector[bot]@users.noreply.github.com
• *@cursor.com
• *@x.ai
• *@google.com
I think some people came up with some other tags to mark LLM commits but can't find that right now.
EDIT: added Assisted-by.
#NoAI #NoLLM #AI
@crell@phpc.social @mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsLet's say you're building a house. Normally this involves hiring a whole bunch of experts (either directly or via some company). You need to pay a fair wage for their labor, and you have to pay for all the material they're going to use. Some of them will be more experienced than others. They will sometimes make a mistake. They will sometimes get sick. The whole construction work will probably take a few months, and may get delayed in the process. Some construction material will be wasted. There's also a risk that over the next years, you'll discover that they screwed something up, and have to fix it. But you'll get a reasonably good house.
Now, a kid comes and tells you you don't have to do this. Instead of paying all these people, you can hire him. He's wearing a suit and sunshades. He never laid a brick in his whole life. But he's got this new great technology that will give you a great house in no time. Of course it will cost you, but not as much as the labor of all these people. You try to learn more, and you discover that the technology actually builds and razes a hundred of house-like things a day, until it gets close enough to something that actually resembles a house. There's a lot of wasted energy and material, but you don't have to worry because it's all subsidized (for the time being). You pay less, you get a house that looks just right on the outside and inside, and that seems to work just right.
Of course, there's a real risk that in a few months you'll discover that something is wrong. You may have to pay a lot for a real expert to figure out how things were done, and how to fix them. Or they may not be able to help you. You may be stuck having to call the suit again, and he'll happily come and fix it for you. And by "fix", I mean he will just raze a whole part of the house and start randomly spitting it out again until he gets something that looks about right, and works about right. Of course, it may not really be a good fit for the rest of the house, but you don't want to pay for replacing the whole thing, do you? It may also introduce a completely new issues that will surface in a few months, but that's just how it is.
Welcome to the glorious world of #AI.
#NoAI #NoLLM #LLM
@pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialExecs think that AI can magically fix all their org's problems: their data problem, their PDLC problem, their PMF problem.
But AI is not magic. It's just a technology — and like all novel technologies, incorporating it into your process only expands the number of things that can and will go wrong.
#AI #LLM #softwaredevelopment #tech
@smurthys@hachyderm.io
@veit@mastodon.socialThe AGENTS.md file simply uses up tokens – nothing else. This was the conclusion reached by researchers at ETH Zurich: ‘Surprisingly, we find that providing context files does not generally improve task success rates, while increasing inference cost by over 20% on average.’
#LLM #AgenticCoding #Claude #Codex #Qwen
@crell@phpc.socialAI and being "left behind"
#ai
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems @tomkalei@machteburch.socialRE: #llm keine Computer bedienen können aber diese "neurosymbolischen" coding agents sind krass. Gerade hat einer von denen ein Computeralgebra-Experiment für mich durchgeführt und dazu komplett über ssh auf einem Rechner mit vielen Cores irgendwo in der Uni ein Projektverzeichnis angelegt, 1023 Skripte, alle nötigen Julia-Pakete lokal installiert, python natürlich weil alles veraltet auf dem SUSE-Linux host, das Experiment durchgeführt unter Nutzung von nur ... 1/2
@crell@phpc.socialYour regular reminder:
ALL LLMs are ultimately just autocomplete. There is no thought, no creativity, no consciousness, no insight. It's just autocomplete with infinite monkeys. What turbocharged autocomplete can do is legit impressive, but it is still just turbocharged autocomplete.
Don't give it more credit than it deserves.
#AI
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsSome people think that #LLM usage costs rising will start undoing some of the harm caused by the #AI hype. I don't think that's really going to help that much.
I'm not even talking about all the projects that were ensloppified and enshittified already. I'm not talking about all the technical debt. I'm not talking about all the forks that will have to be maintained forever. I'm not talking of all the projects that were abandoned because of burnout, or because they were only hype-oriented. And I'm not talking about all the corporations that will continue submitting slop.
I'm talking about the loss of trust. After all, we're not talking of people who realized they were wrong and are sorry. We're not talking of people realizing that it was wrong to forfeit ethics and morals in the name of "productivity". We're talking of people who are jumping ships because their previous approach turned out not to be profitable anymore. We're talking of gamblers who left the casino because they went broke. They aren't sorry that they gambled; they are sorry that they've lost. And they'd be happy to do it again at the nearest opportunity.
So, I'm sorry to say, but #FreeSoftware is never going to be the same again. A lot of people have shown their true colors, and I won't forget that.
#NoAI #NoLLM #OpenSource #FLOSS
@tomkalei@machteburch.socialHere is another scenario how research #mathematics as we know it will die (or is dead already?): Balkanization!
Without speculating about the future, current agentic AI systems can produce very impressive research math, certainly on PhD level, sometimes on Fields medal level. It needs to be post processed, etc. but I think it is an established fact.
#llm #math #ai 🧵
@crell@phpc.socialWho cleans up after the vibe-coding party?
#ai
@pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialHandoffs drool, meetings rule. To fully realize our design vision we MUST coordinate with other people, and therefore deliberately design our meetings to be effective. But instead we are ceding the influence that meetings give us, to focus on LLM-powered solipsism.
#tech #UXDesign #SoftwareDevelopment #AI #LLM #UX #design
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsWhen you're building software aimed at a niche related to hype, the only thing you can do is hook people onto it. I mean, you're targeting the kind people who have an attention span of a fruit fly. Unless they're literally addicted to your software, they're going to forget it as soon as they notice the next shiny thing.
#AI #LLM #NoAI #NoLLM #FreeSoftware #OpenSource
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsThere's a new meat eating hype. Meat companies are telling everyone people would have more energy if they only ate more meat. Employers are getting huge meat lunches for their employees and expecting a productivity boost. Against their better judgement, employees are stuffing themselves with loads of meat and struggling to work. But eventually, they figure out how to eat more and be more productive. In the meantime, a lot of people (including meat eaters) are crying over the obvious climate and health harm, both from increased meat consumption and from increased waste as people throw away even more food.
Meat eaters now put up a big banners of what meat they like, and invite others to join them with meat. More people are becoming vocally vegan, or at least trying to limit their meat consumption. Some also put "vegan" or even more aggressive "no meat allowed" signs.
Some meat eaters think it's fine to bring offering of meat to a stranger if they didn't put up an explicit "vegan" sign yet. "I won't get offensed, I'll just throw it in the trash", they say. Some go even further and try to trick you by saying it's actually a vegan meat-lookalike.
#AI #LLM #NoAI #NoLLM
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems @mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsComputers used to be fun. I used to use Windows 9x, and it was unstable as hell, and you kept having to lean over backwards to get things to work. Then I used bleeding edge Linux, and at some point I've ended up running pure framebuffer tty for months because X11 was broken. But despite all the breakage (or maybe even because of it), it was fun. It was fun because random accidental breakage was the worst you could expect.
Nowadays, accidental breakage is rare. Things are relatively stable. However, every step of the way you have to watch out for bad actors. No, not criminals, they are rare. Evil corporations who are looking at every opportunity to fuck you up. Using computer is no longer fun, it's no longer a tool that helps you, and it's no longer your choice. You are forced to use it, and if you don't want to be hurt every step of the way, you have to spend all the effort on fighting back. And you're fucked up anyway, because even if you manage, your family and all the people around you won't care and will let their devices, their computers and their smartphones fuck you up.
I've started using FLOSS so many years ago, for the trivial reason that I didn't want to pay for software. I stayed because I enjoyed doing it. And I wanted to make a difference, I wanted to contribute positively to the world. Even if in a little way, but I wanted to be able to say that as much harm I've done to the planet, there's at least something positive to balance it out.
But nowadays I hate FLOSS. It's been overrun by the worst people in the world. The people who aren't happy with just fucking you up. They want everyone to keep fucking everyone up. It's the kind of horror where whatever you do, it turns out you're causing harm.
I don't trust my #Gentoo #packaging work anymore. So much of the software I touch turns out to be #slop. When I file a pull request, I'm worried it will trigger #LLM reviews. When I file a bug, I'm worried it will trigger LLM responses. And today, I've learned that my old bug report to a #NoAI project resulted in a dozen slop pull requests already. Whatever you do, #AI folks smile and tell you "see, you fucked up the world even more after all".
Honestly, I don't know what to do. I hate all of this so much. But even if I managed to figure out something else to do for a living, I can't escape computers. And if I stop doing them, if I stop fighting them, I will only end up being fucked up more.
#NoLLM #AI #FreeSoftware
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems @pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialThe job of management boils down to deciding where to invest company resources to maximize returns.
But saying yes to one thing means saying no to something else. Deciding what gets cut (and getting buy-in for those decisions) is hard! So instead they started agitating for "velocity" in a foolish belief that they would never have to prioritize one idea over another ever again.
#AI #LLM #tech #softwaredevelopment #UX #UXDesign
@pavelasamsonov@mastodon.socialDesigners talk a big game about "empathy" for users. But empathy without respect is nothing more than pity.
And nowhere is the lack of respect more apparent than in how LLMs have been productized and adopted. The "human in the loop" excuse pushes consequences down onto scrupulous employees and ultimately onto the very users on whom we claim to be centered.
The consequences of disrespectful software are now becoming apparent across tech.
#UX #UXDesign #LLM #AI #tech
@tomkalei@machteburch.socialDie Kinder wissen, dass #Siri dumm ist und beömmeln sich darüber, was für witziger Quatsch passiert, wenn sie Siri was fragen.
Also macht #Apple ja jetzt Gemini überall rein und dann wird das alles in Ordnung kommen.
ODER?
Heute morgen habe ich die Kids beobachtet, wie sie (den Sprachmodus von) chatGPT 5.5 verarscht haben.
Sie haben erst nach dem stärksten Tier gefragt und da kam dann sowas wie Löwe oder Blauwal.
Kinder: „Aber eine Ameise sei doch auch stark…“
... 🧵 1/3
#KI #llm #kinder
@tomkalei@machteburch.socialApparently somebody posted a #counterexample to the Jacobian conjecture on X last night (found by an LLM). I won’t link that junk site, but somebody added it to Wikipedia already if you care:
#math #LLMs #ai
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsI've taken #Gentoo Bugzilla down, because it was unusable anyway. No point in feeding the #LLM scrapers that are using thousands of different IPv4 addresses, with no obvious patterns I can see.
EDIT: I'm not looking for hints. I'm not a sysadmin, and I don't have time to deal with this shit. I'm just trying to get some useful job done. I'm not supposed to have to be dealing with this.
#AI #NoAI #NoLLM
