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@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 16:00:48

Panel talking about dark markets on nostr.
Nostr can be quite anonymous and encrypted and connected to payment via bitcoin. Can it therefore do Silk Road? Allow anonymous markets?
Nobody wants to publicly advocate for selling illegal drugs, but yeah, sure, people could do that. There's even protocol types for market places.
Relay owners might get into legal issues if they are forwarding illegal market listings. But this is true in general, there are also illegal images and even illegal text.
Nostr relays and Devs might find themselves in legal trouble anyway, due to the general legal crackdowns on internet requiring age proof and id on websites obstensively to protect kids. These are freedoms we all need to fight for. Perhaps brains will drain to more free jurisdictions? Devs move to where open development is legal? Not the panel at least. They want to say at home.
#nostr #nostrshire #darkMarkets

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 14:55:36

Wouter constant is talking about permissionlessness. Nostr is a protocol that doesn't need some central server to authenticate your requests. Which is good. But this means that, say, children can use it without parents permission.
Online safety act and others are closing down the internet to protect them kids. So can nostr have accounts that do need permission? Can it be made kid safe? Of only to satisfy crazy governments under parent pressure.
Weboftrustfoundation exists to try and build kidstr, some kind of nostr for children.
Mostly just asking questions so far. How can it work? How can it avoid labelling vulnerable people to exploit?
#nostr #permissionlessness #nostrshire

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 15:33:35

Angor is a crowdfunding protocol for nostr and bitcoin.
Dan here is building it. Kickstarter without middle men.
Accountability is key. What stops the fund raiser just fleeing with the coin?
Funds are programmed to be released in stages, time locked in a multisig.
So if they aren't meeting milestones, investors can withdraw. If the founders are buying lambos instead of building, just cash out at that point.
Permissionless and decentralised, no servers except nostr relays and bitcoin nodes. No third party's claiming 30 percent fees. The system is a nostr client scanning relays for investment object types. Allowing investment into the funding contracts and subscription to updates.
#nostr #nostrshire #angor

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 14:01:59

Panel asking what nostr doesnt fix?
Relay centralisation could enable censorship, and the UI asking users to manage private keys is tricky.
Could one app become a centralisation choke point? They say no. Agreed. Nostr has very good migration here, if one app goes bad it's easy to move.
Privacy is not solved here, since almost all content is public anyway, by design. But since so users have public keys, it's a step towards enabling privacy. Agreed, and at least clients won't generally spy on every mouse click and scroll pause.
No mention of the thing I think most important, that censorship resistance means poor moderation that means bullying, spam, and harassment. That's tricky to solve I think. The fediverse model seems more suitable for good moderation.
#nostr #nostrshire

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 15:01:03

Speaking of kids, here if a kid who is building a nostr gaming system.
Not by vibe coding, by learning how to use unity.
Gamestr.io is the marketplace he's building. Submitting a protocol improvement proposal for gaming types.
His gaming market is first going to feature a Tetris clone that broadcasts scores as that new type.
Talented kid named Sam.
#nostr #gamestr #nostrshire

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 16:15:44

Eugene points out that in the current centralised social media, your identify is held by the provider.
On nostr, the user holds the keys to their own identity.
One identity works with many apps. It can't be revoked deleted or taken over by the service provider.
This gives you a credible exit, you own the account so you can move it elsewhere if the web host is toxic or abusive.
#nostr #nostrshire

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 15:17:31

Black Coffee from lnbits likes internet of things, but doesn't like the way it tends to work with centralised servers and spying companies running them.
But what if your coffee pot and lights and smart plugs were nostr instead?
Nobody can cut your machine off, it has it's own keys and encryption, you could even ruin your own relay to talk to it instead of using public relays.
Remote control without having to expose the home network.
You could even make it require zaps and so make a vending machine.
Demonstration by sending lightning requests to the coffee pot on stage works better than the mikes that have been feeding back this afternoon 😆
#nostr #nostrshire #internetOfThings

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 11:00:44

Nostrshire panel talking about Adam Curry's podcast2.0 , more tags in your podcast rss for payments, in the hope it can fund producers. Did you know besos takes 75 percent of all Audible money? Actors and writers sharing scraps from Amazon's table.
Hot news is that keysend tags are out of fashion and the bolt11 lnurl invoices are taking over.
Podcast platforms can be bridged through nostr to enable cross platform comments and discovery but making users create key pairs is to complex the fountainfm guy reckons. Wants to hide and shatter l abstract away that complexity.
#nostr #nostrshire #podcasting2.0

@light@noc.social
2025-11-17 21:32:13

Does anyone know a network that is #userSovereign like #Nostr but isn't full of boring Bitcoin discussion and "zapping" culture? Preferably no crypto integration at all tbh.

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 10:59:50

AJ at nostrshire ding a good job explaining why security matters and why we have to get off the surveilled and privately owned media
#aj #nostr #nostershire

@pre@boing.world
2025-11-21 13:45:47

Marti Malmi talks about cloud flare being down but nostr staying up.
Decentralised software isn't supposed to have these single points of failure, even though some clients failed due to dependency on it.
Media files in particular aren't as decentralised as we might hope. Can we decentralise that better? Content addressed media available from many servers should be better.
#nostrshire