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@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-28 03:38:25

> No significant changes.
Looks inside.
> Significant changes.
#Python

@tinoeberl@mastodon.online
2026-03-21 06:07:01

#Steady #Klimacrew
#BahnMonitor-Projekt: 7. Zufall ist nicht gleich Zufall. 🤭
Nach der Verspätungsmeldung kommt ein Wissenshäppchen. Der

@cdonat@hostsharing.coop
2026-05-25 12:12:44

Is it only me, or has the hashtag #Python converted in to a LinkedIn-like wave of marketing bullshit? I really like Python, and use it a lot, but this is becoming unbearable.

@lpryszcz@genomic.social
2026-03-15 12:30:11

#Cython promises to make "writing #C extensions for Python as easy as #Python itself." The reality is: learn C's mental model, express it in Python syntax, and use a separate diagnostic tool to verif…

@qbi@freie-re.de
2026-03-15 09:08:43

Thonny, Python IDE for beginners
#IDEsofMarch #python

@adlerweb@social.adlerweb.info
2026-04-23 09:04:15

Falls ihr das #Python "dist"-Modul oder #Ansible nutzt und bei #Gentoo plötzlich für distribution/ansible_distribution/… falsche Werte erhaltet (z.B. ClearLinux):
Gentoo quo…

@stsquad@mastodon.org.uk
2026-03-24 15:01:52

Looks like there is another supply chain attack on open source, this time the #python based #litellm package. I had a look at the #github page and I can see over a thousand open pull requests and a core t…

@rasterweb@mastodon.social
2026-04-17 20:57:35

I do not get how Python's math.modf works...
Why do I get all the zeros or nines?
4.4 | 4.0 | 0.40000000000000036
4.5 | 4.0 | 0.5
4.6 | 4.0 | 0.5999999999999996
I can fix it with... more math, but maybe I am doing something wrong?
#python #math

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-25 19:42:28

I've been sad about the upcoming removal of #PyPy from #Gentoo, but given how many regressions I've been seeing recently in a variety of #Python packages, I'm eagerly waiting for the day when I'll remove the support and be able to stop having to deal with the test failures somehow. Not that at this point any other way of dealing besides skipping them makes any sense.

@ellie@ellieayla.net
2026-03-13 19:44:01

Does VSCode (eg in pylance) have a feature to display a clickable link to the language standard library documentation (eg #python #vscode #askfedi

@tinoeberl@mastodon.online
2026-03-19 06:07:02

#Steady #Klimacrew
#BahnMonitor-Projekt: 5. Automatisierte Skripte brauchen Kontrolle – besonders bei API-Aufrufen.
Jetzt bekommt das

@hynek@mastodon.social
2026-04-15 04:42:31

I’m shocked I haven’t sold out PyTexas yet! What’s up Austin, I even got a fresh haircut! #Python
pretix.eu/pytexas/2026/

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-24 14:29:27

#Python is just doing great. We're not having impossible constraints, as some projects need old #setuptools for pkg_resources, and other projects are starting to require newer setuptools for some fancy new features. And ofc after promising to release pkg_resources standalone over a month ago, setuptools upstream didn't deliver.
#Gentoo

@datascience@genomic.social
2026-05-15 10:00:00

Video tutorials for modern ideas and open source tools. #python

@stf@chaos.social
2026-05-03 13:50:18

wtf does everytime a new v of #python is rolled out in linux distros, all virtual envs break, and i do have to rebuild them manually. we're now 13 minor versions since py v2.7 and everything became worse since then. i have a stable app, and if python would not fuck up this i would not have to touch it in a decade, but because of this, i feel like i'm in the java ecosystem where work is gener…

@rasterweb@mastodon.social
2026-03-10 20:14:18

Here's two examples of running command line stuff on iOS via Apple Shortcuts and a-Shell.
One shows the uptime of my phone, the other runs a Python script and shows the output.
#iOS #apple #python

Screen shot of an Apple Shortcut
Screen shot of an Apple Shortcut
@michabbb@social.vivaldi.net
2026-05-10 18:14:15

🎬 Supported events include batch job completion, video generation via #Veo, and agent workflow signals. One WebhookConfig object wired directly into your generate_videos() or batch call.
🐍 The #Python SDK makes it trivial — pass a WebhookConfig with your URI and subscribed events to any long-…

@hynek@mastodon.social
2026-04-13 17:49:06

Here’s stamina 26.1.0, my opinionated #Python retry package, that now supports more than 1024 retries for the cases when you need A LOT of stamina: github.com/hynek/stamina/relea

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-22 03:11:10

If #Python package releases continue at this rate, I'm going to have to start getting up earlier.
Or just stop doing all of them in the morning.
#Gentoo

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-27 05:17:15

Anything great morning.
So now #Typer, the NIH #Python CLI library, decided to start bundling #Click. Why? Of course there's a lot of marketing bullshit behind it. Which ofc means they just don't want to be bothered about following the API, and take the easy way out.
Honestly, there is not a single week when I learn to hate Python even more. Slop-driven development.
EDIT: and ofc they immediately broke compatibility with vanilla click.
#Gentoo

@hynek@mastodon.social
2026-04-12 09:33:20

Maintainer friends of wheel-heavy #Python packages: do we already have some practical, standard way to automatically upload all the cibuildwheel output across all architectures? My current workflow is a) a pain in the ass and b) requires me to have one last PyPI upload token.

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-21 11:06:01

> #Python Stable ABI
> makes extensions unstable (they start segfaulting)
github.com/pikepdf/pikepdf/iss

@stf@chaos.social
2026-05-03 13:51:08

why can't a minor version change not be goddamn backward compatible ffs.
#python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-11 13:58:34

Fun case of circular logic in #Python #standards:
discuss.python.org/t/spaces-no
1. Use "globs" in the specification.
2. Decide that "glob" may be ambiguous, so add severe restrictions on what's supported.
3. Because of the severe restrictions, people may have reinvented the wheel instead of using system `glob` module.
4. Since people may have used their custom implementations, just relaxing the spec is a problem.

@michabbb@social.vivaldi.net
2026-04-05 06:46:25

🛠️ Code generation with diff preview, cURL builder from captured requests, one-click request replay, VS Code-style command palette (Ctrl K), built-in Swagger UI & dark/light theme with PWA offline support
🌐 Language-agnostic API (#OpenAPI 3.1) - send debug data from #Python,

@tomkalei@machteburch.social
2026-04-20 11:00:24

Here is a quine in #lean
def main : IO Unit := do
let s := "\n IO.print (\"def main : IO Unit := do\\n let s := \" s.quote s)\n"
IO.print ("def main : IO Unit := do\n let s := " s.quote s)
S is code to print the preamble P, then S quoted and then S.
If you want to test it, make sure there is a newline at the end of the file because S ends in "\n".
#Python:
s = '\nprint("s = " repr(s) s)'
print("s = " repr(s) s)
2/2

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-19 05:12:35

Always appreciate #Python package developers being responsible about API stability, and… [checks notes]… raising the major version number over a "minor API tweak", then delaying the release until a security fix demanded one.
#packaging

@castarco@hachyderm.io
2026-03-20 08:56:24

It's not like I'm entirely surprised by this #OpenAI. That's the kind of software that we should build as a community.
#Astral #Python #Capitalism #floss

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-02 14:12:28

Oh, in other news, Wheel Variants (formerly PEP 817) is being split into smaller PEPs that will be easier to comprehend. The draft of the first split part, PEP 825, titled "Wheel Variants: Package Format" has been merged. We'd appreciate your feedback!
#Python #packaging

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-04-20 01:58:52

How to get a package removed from #Gentoo?
1. Add a new #NIH dependency.
2. The dependency turns out to use coherent.build. Nightmare! Oh, wait, apparently coherent.build generates source distributions that use flit.core (understandable; coherent.build is unusable).
3. The dependency depends on chardet (the project famous for GPL copywashing). Okay, technically it works with the older version, and the dependency is optional with poor person's fallback, so I guess it would be fine.
4. But hey, this package is not used by anything, and the last package using it in Gentoo was removed in 2020, after not being touched for 4 years already. Also, that package is not maintained upstream since 2017, so I guess there's negligible risk of it ever coming back.
#Python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-16 06:30:31

Yes, please reinvent more wheels by rewriting #Python logic in #RustLang. What could possibly go wrong?!
github.com/awolverp/cachebox/i

@michabbb@social.vivaldi.net
2026-04-11 20:43:48

♿ First #opensource end-to-end PDF accessibility tool: layout analysis − auto-tagging − Tagged PDF (Apache 2.0, Q2 2026). Built with PDF Association & veraPDF devs
🔗 #LangChain integration, #Python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-04-15 05:00:43

The state of #security these days: #Python #virtualenv package now includes SHA256 sums of their bundled wheels, declaring that it protects against "supply-chain compromise". Because obviously there are so many attack vectors that permit you to alter a .whl file but not the .py file in the same directory.
No, I'm not saying verifying checksum makes no sense, because indeed it can save some pain if fs is damaged somehow. However, calling this a "security" feature is a misnomer at best, and openly giving people false sense of security at worst.

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-27 05:04:07

< mgorny> that's gunicorn
< mgorny> looks like vibecoding hard
<@sam_> sigh
<@sam_> #Python #NoAI #NoLLM #AI #LLM #OpenSource

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-13 14:52:16

One of my strong suites in all the packaging work is the knowledge in my head.
"Why don't you write it down for others to benefit from, then?", you'd ask.
The thing is, this knowledge is basically "hot cache". I'm bumping hundreds of #Python packages in #Gentoo, so I remember stuff. And because of that, I can quickly notice some things or answer some questions.
If that were written down, the effort needed to find it would diminish all the gain. I mean, technically *it is* already written down, and the whole point is that I have it "cached".

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-11 07:57:54

Always grateful for the new levels of stability and reliability that #RustLang rewrites of #Python stuff bring.
> a = Tibs.from_i(-1, 128)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
E pyo3_runtime.PanicException: attempt to negate with overflow
github.com/scott-griffiths/tib

@michabbb@social.vivaldi.net
2026-03-31 18:37:22

#ZenOfAICoding: 16 theses on the future of #softwaredevelopment in the #AI era — a homage to the Zen of

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-11 07:26:39

So, remember how all the cool kids dumped #Sphinx and went for the shiny #MkDocs thing? And then used the shiny Material for MkDocs theme?
Well, apparently MkDocs 1.x is dead, and MkDocs 2.0 is coming with no support for plugins, incompatible theming system, closed contribution model and unclear licensing.
So which hype train are the cool kids jumping to these days?
#Python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-04-30 04:07:02

I think we should EOL #Python versions more often. This triggers not-very-active projects to finally make a release, including another batch of releases today (apparently 6 months mark). Unlike, I don't know, bug fixes.
#Gentoo

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-04-04 16:21:45

1. Do random changes to cython-test-exception-raiser, and commit them as "initial code".
2. Move the extension module from the package directory into top-level "raiser.*.so", for no apparent reason.
3. Switch to CalVer, so that #Twisted newer upgrades to the new releases (it pins to <2).
4. I file a bug, because I'd like to finally remove the old version from #Gentoo.
#Python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-23 04:40:50

There's a new piece explaining "The Slow Collapse of #MkDocs": "How personality clashes, an absent founder, and a controversial redesign fractured one of Python's most popular projects."
#httpx?
Well, turns out no, not at all. It looks like encode has already crumbled and became immensely toxic.
httpx is not allowing bug reports anymore, apparently because of "absurdly skewed gender representation", whatever that means.
#OpenSource.
#FreeSoftware #Python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-19 12:23:26

Proper #security nightmare time.
#LMDB is a database that's designed to operate on trusted input. Upstream has historically rejected all bug reports regarding problems with malformed input.
Py-LMDB project provides #Python bindings to LMDB that are normally built against bundled LMDB. Someone recently started mass-filing "untrusted input" vulnerabilities against py-lmdb, and py-lmdb started #slop - coding fixes to their bundled LMDB. Of course, nobody even bothered reporting most of these bugs upstream, and the one that I've seen reported was rejected as "don't do that".
Py-LMDB supports building against system LMDB, and #Gentoo was doing that so far. However, now we are facing a problem: system LMDB operates under the assumption that it is working on trusted input, while py-lmdb (and its bundled LMDB) operates under the assumption that it may be working with untrusted input. The guarantees no longer align.
If we continue to use system LMDB (and skip all the added slop tests that literally cause Python to crash), then Gentoo's py-lmdb package will now have different input expectations than upstream py-lmdb. And of course we can't just remove that crap because someone added exactly one package (TorchVision, i.e. part of the plagiarism machine suite) depending on it.
bugs.gentoo.org/971352

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-11 03:18:59

Always appreciate how people release RCs to give others opportunity to test their changes early, then release final versions before the fixes for "breaks #Portage" kind of regressions introduced in the RCs are merged.
#Gentoo #Python #CPython

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-02 13:10:48

And non-zero version epochs in #Python are now officially discouraged. Not that anyone used them.
#Gentoo

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-17 06:43:42

A short history of #SQLGlot:
2023-07: SQLGlot is added to #Gentoo.
2023-12: Rust extension is added.
2026-03: Rust extension is replaced by mypyc compilation.
2026-03: SQLGlot now requires its own mypy fork… 🤦
Seriously, what are these people thinking?!
EDIT: and of course it's LLM #slop now.
#Python

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-04-14 09:22:16

PSA: The annual #Gentoo #Python switch planned for 2026-06-01. CPython 3.14 becomes the default, 3.11 and #PyPy 3.11 go out. The latter fills me with sadness but keeping it is unrealistic now that projects are aggressively pushing for 3.12 .
Of course, we'll continue shipping the interpreters, so you can use venvs if you like. However, that's going to become harder to use since many projects either don't ship PyPy wheels or don't work on PyPy at all without patching.
We will revisit PyPy support if a version compatible with Python 3.12 appears in reasonable time.
public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo
public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-31 11:45:30

#orjson is another #Python package you should avoid:
> There is no open issue tracker or pull requests due to signal-to-noise ratio.
#RustLang.

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-09 02:48:20

When you drop the dependency on #chardet over the #AI #slop release… and replace it with your own slop.
#Python #LLM #NoAI #NoLLM

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-04-03 14:18:26

#PythonPoetry is yet another project that disrespectfully treats human bug reporters with #slop:
#NoAI #NoLLM

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-05-05 05:25:48

#Python #cryptography library (yes, the one that criticizes everything and everyone) is now vibecoded. Our future is truly bright!
Noticed because apparently "Claude" wrote a test that OOM-ed my system. But hey, #RustLang protects against memory errors, so it's fine to vibecode your security critical components.
#security #AI #LLM #NoAI #NoLLM

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-30 05:47:11

I'm looking at Repology, and I think most of the distributions and other downstreams have rightfully boycotted #Python #chardet #copywashing. Of course, there's the possibility that some of them are simply out-of-date, though.
So far chardet-7 is distributed by #Chromebrew, #CondaForge (not on Repology), #Homebrew, #KaOS, #OpenIndiana, #openmamba, #Ravenports, #Spack and #T2 SDE. Shame on you!
repology.org/project/chardet/v
repology.org/project/python:

@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
2026-03-04 04:17:35

Sometimes I wonder why do I even bother. I mean, people are perfectly happy to let statistical models designed as bullshit generators do their coding. Why do I even bother running their test suites and inspecting the failures as a human, if these tests may well be complete bullshit?
#FreeSoftware #OpenSource #Gentoo #Python #AI #LLM #NoAI #NoLLM #VibeCoding