2025-11-03 11:57:27
Found an obscure hint that perhaps instead of authenticating through #Evolution I should instead authenticate through the #Gnome settings for attached accounts, so I tried that approach, this time it asks for far more permissions (8 in all) but, you guessed it, a classic Sam Beckett "No Answer" and the terse response, "timed out".
So the app doesn't matter. The browser doesn't matter. The account or any legacy cruft doesn't matter.
Does this leave as the only explanation that perhaps Google no longer provides OAuth2 tokens? Surely that would be all over the news if true, but I'm running out of local culprits. Also Emacs inability to authenticate Mastodon suggests its neither google nor Debian per se? Maybe I should spend my time more productively slamming a car door on my fingers?
I have a dread feeling wiping the laptop and carefully reinstalling from scratch will not work.
so
very
frustrating
#Gnome #Evolution how is this even possible? Fresh #Debian13 install, launched, added my google workspace, read and answered email, browsed calendar, really nice, but the VERY NEXT MORNING suddenly tossed into OAuth2-is-missing, step through the 'wizard' and it always ends with the same heartache, are you trying sign in? and then…
Mail authentication (shown) gives a URL to a page, Make sure you trust Gnome (4 perms already granted, Google console agrees) but in Firefox that URL asks to confirm and then reverts to google.com. In the minibrowser, it gets to "Requesting access token, please wait"
And wait you do.
How is this even POSSIBLE? What could cause it to (a) drop an OAuth2 overnight that had been in use for a day and (b) subsequently give a URL that does not result in an access token. I removed permissions on the Google side, but same results. Reinstalled Evolution, no change
yes, I checked gitlab.gnome.org
Installed a Linux Workstation with default Gnome - it is so bad. How has anyone thought this is shippable?
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/blob/main/plugins/housekeeping/gsd-donation-reminder.c?ref_type=heads#L83
Donation notifications are not worth setting as critical:
If you can't see what Canonical are doing with their snap obsession, or IBM-RedHat with Wayland and GNOME, then let me spell it out: they're trying to remake Linux in their own proprietary image to steer the ship away from common standards and kill the competition, or at least force it to be downstream of their control. We've been here before:
Heute vor 64 Jahren: Am 03.12.1961 zündeten die #USA im Rahmen von Operation Nougat die 6. Atombombe "Fisher". Nougat war eine Serie von #Kernwaffentests bei der 61/62 insgesamt 44 Bomben im Testgebiet in #Nevada
@… weird, I had no trouble with GNOME Disks.
What exactly were the symptoms, following the write to the stick?
What's the filename?
Created a fresh account, logged in, immediately launched #Evolution and entered the Google account, and I get the exact same behaviour?!
Is it possible Google changed the rules midnight Nov 29th? Or is the #FUBAR thing deep deep in the bowels of #debian13?
I could not find that many solutions to my #GNOME issues listed at the bottom on https://karl-voit.at/Gnome-Setup/ and so I tested Debian 13 Live
I have a theory: in my travels through various docs on various components I came across a strategy some apps use where they salt the encryption with the hash your current password. If any of these apps did that, moving .local files to the new machine would fail unlocking things because the passwords are different.
Ich gebe AI ja immer mal wieder eine Chance. Vor zwei, drei Jahren experimentierte ich mit verschiedenen Bildgeneratoren und fand sie höchst enttäuschend. Um denen meine Vorstellungen zu entlocken, müsste ich so viel Aufwand betreiben, dass ich besser selbst zeichnen und malen lerne. Einfacher ist es, eine*n Künstler*in zu bezahlen, wo mir der Stil gefällt.
Vor ein paar Monaten habe ich es mit Coding probiert. Ich wollte eine GNOME Shell Extension schreiben. Die Ansätze der AI … griffe…
Trying to daily drive Epiphany (Gnome Web) as my browser for a while. It's handling all of the sites that I need it to, including everything school-related, but for whatever reason I can't create or edit any bookmarks.
I'm trying to resist the temptation to start something WebkitGTK based. Epiphany's interface is, well, ok. But I'd really love something more flexible. In particular, I'm missing the vertical tabs from recent Firefox releases - it's a real sp…
from my link log —
Debian running on Rust coreutils.
https://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/2021/03/09/debian-running-on-rust-coreutils
saved 2021-03-09
PythonBPF - Writing #eBPF Programs in Pure #Python
https://xeon.me/gnome/pythonbpf/
and so, once again, the 'solution' isn't in the distro or legacy, it is in the wiki on the internals of Evolution where I just incidentally learn it can be a flatpak or not, and thus there are TWO .local/share folders to wipe. So I delete all accts in Evo, empty trash just in case, exit, wipe those folders, go into Settings, delete the Google connection which shows as two identical so delete them both, reboot.
On boot, go straight to settings which shows none, add Google and I'm in, quick as a wink. I start #Evolution, and lo, there it is, my account fetching emails!
Now to figure that #mastodonel thing and why mastodon.plstore is so problematic.
Interesting insight via @… on the cultural shifts in these communities:
https://scalie.zone/@aks/115219522857171503
X11 in Gnome ist Geschichte - Backend entfernt
Angedeutet hatte es sich schon, nun haben die Entwickler durchgezogen: Sie haben den X11-Backend-Code aus Gnome entfernt.
https://www.heise.de/news/X…
#GNOME dropps the 32-bit #Flatpak Runtime compatibility extension:
https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/…
Mitte Oktober endet der Support für Windows 10. Dass Microsoft seine Kundschaft dazu auffordert, Millionen von funktionierenden Computern wegzuwerfen, ist ein gigantisches Umweltverbrechen.
Wenn Microsoft kein Windows 11 auf deinem Windows-10-Laptop laufen lassen will, dann nutze die Gelegenheit doch, mal Linux auszuprobieren!
Ich freue mich schon auf die Linux-Install-Party m…
Yes, I'm late but I just installed Debian 13 Trixie 😅
I'm trying tuba app bcuz is new on Trixie. Surfing through his config and not bad really.
ATM I'm staying in here.
https://apps.gnome.org/Tuba/
it just keeps getting better and better:
helm-M-x-execute-command: Error: Too many requests
and yet EWW opens mstdn.ca without issue.
I have another theory: I actually passed away, likely a heart attack, overnight on the 28th and now exist in my own personal hell. If I step outside to find I now live next to a golf course and country club, I'll know for sure.
Heute vor 64 Jahren: Am 01.10.1961 zündeten die #USA im Rahmen von Operation Nougat die 3. Atombombe "Boomer". Nougat war eine Serie von #Kernwaffentests bei der 61/62 insgesamt 44 Bomben im Testgebiet in #Nevada
🎉 Resources 1.9 has just been released, here are the highlights:
• Thanks to the volunteers of GNOME Damned Lies, Resources is now available in many more languages
• Support for the new “xe” driver for Intel GPUs
• Link information is now also shown for Wi-Fi interfaces
• Resources can now halt graphical updates when its window is not in view to save on power
• Update to the GNOME 49 runtime
• Internal changes for less code complexity and clearer architecture…
Protip: if you decide to fuck around with COSMIC on openSUSE, it will swap out kwallet for gnome-keychain, and you'll thereafter get moaning on Plasma session start about your login keyring not being unlocked. Nuke COSMIC gnome-keychain and reinstall the kwallet PAM stack to get things back to normal.
Ok, Gnome removed the X11 backend and only supports Wayland. I'd be fine with that when they finally had separated the window manager from the full session. It's just annoying¹ to get logged out because the window manager crashes again – and that happens way to often!
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¹to use a mild term
#gnome
I'd be great if KDE changes to a twice a year update schedule, more like Gnome.
My N150 is churning away for over 2 hours each and every time there's a version bump 😆
Reading along to https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/11/06/dhh-and-omarchy-midlife-crisis/ and this quote really resonated:
“Is it any surprise that such a person later would find the most minuscule kind of opposition as an all-out attack on his self-…
"This is not some grand heel turn, or some brainwashing that DHH suffered. This is straight up a midlife crisis turned fash speedrun."
(Original title: Jordan Petridis: DHH and Omarchy: Midlife crisis)
https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/11/06/…
«David, when you read this I hope it will be a wake-up call. It’s not too late, you only need to go offline and let people help you. Stop the pathetic TemuElon speedrun and go take care of your kids.»
DHH and Omarchy: Midlife crisis – Rust in Peace
https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/11/06/dhh-and-omarchy-midlife-crisis/
and it was going so well too: spent yesterday enjoying a not-gmail #Evolution access to my workspace, but now, as of this morning, with no changes other than sleep, Evolution is locked out:
“Failed to authenticate: Cannot create an item in a locked collection”.
ok #Debian13 #gnome wtf is a "locked collection" and by who's authority was it created with a lock on my own machine?
More to the point: will my Evolution email always be this fragile? ie is it pointless to even try?
More to the gripe: do software developers EVER post messages using terms that are actually DEFINED somewhere?
#LibreOffice Writer follows the dark/light mode on Gnome. That is awesome!
I recently debugged sound staying mute. Yet the speakers, bluetooth, pipewire, gnome all claimed everything is fine and connected.
That day I learned you can mute a tab group in a Sideberry.
via @…
https…
»Ubuntu 25.10 — Rust statt C, Wayland statt X11:
Die Linux-Distribution Ubuntu 25.10 nutzt Rust-basierte Systemkomponenten. Der auf Version 49 aktualisierte @… Desktop läuft nur noch auf Wayland.«
Ich pers. bevorzuge @… nicht als Desk…
hier wird ein neuer Entwickler gesucht bzw. der ein projekt übernimmt. Ist ein Terminal-Client namens Tillix. hat sehr schöne Features. Vieelleicht kennt ja jemanden, der das Projekt übernehmen möchte ;D
https://gnunn1.github.io/tilix-web/
In my search for the perfect Linux desktop distribution, I came across Zorin OS 18 about three weeks ago, after the entire Linux YouTube community responded with rave reviews to the latest release.
And while I was only moderately enthusiastic about earlier versions, if not at all, in the case of version 18, I have to join the applauding crowd!
Firstly, everything works out of the box, and secondly, the graphical implementation of the GNOME desktop is a perfect blend of the old Wi…
But everyone just wants to talk about and use "AI" ... if their paycheck depends on it
https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/115343584016809960
AerynOS is running very well, landed on the Gnome session. CDN is fast. You can easily take out the basic applications and replace them with flatpaks (if at all). Snappy, clocking in at a little over 1 gb for a Gnome session. Noice.
#aerynos
This is interesting—a maturing replacement to LaTeX! It's called Typst.
I've been using LaTeX for all kinds of word processing since I left the academic world behind—I'm writing the manual for my Gnome for seniors in it, at the moment. Might be interesting to switch to Typst, to try it out. (#latex #typst #linux #opensource #oss #typesetting
As much as I like Plasma, Dash to Panel on Gnome kinda clears it (at least for me)
Are diffusion models ready for materials discovery in unexplored chemical space?
Sanghyun Kim, Gihyeon Jeon, Seungwoo Hwang, Jiho Lee, Jisu Jung, Seungwu Han, Sungwoo Kang
https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.09406
Manjaro GNOME (Linux) on a 2015 MacBook pro. Runs super fast and scales brilliantly to the retina display. #linux
@… I use Tabliss in firefox, the tabs dont take more space than the menu in gnome. It's acctually nice and that works for me. The small icon on each tab makes switching with keys much easier when I can see that I want tab 5 for example
With the final patient undergoing surgery as we speak the big ssd carrousel has almost finished.
So I now have Gentoo KDE, AerynOS Gnome, Slackware Tiling Edition (hyprland, niri, dwm) and Slackware KDE all up and running on separate disks.
The new kid on the block is Debian Trixie, with the Awesome wm, in a spin by @…
Great stuff Dr…
New #blog post: Setting up #Gnome (Linux) for #seniors. I've been looking into how to best set up an extremely simplified and limited #Linux for #elderly people. There don't seem to be many pre-existing efforts for this, so I figured I'd write a short blog about it.
#Mastodon as a #comment system for all my #blog posts. A reaction to this Mastodon post will show up as a comment.
#opensource #software #firefox #geary #abiword #nautilus #extensions #plugins
They say a change is as good as being arrested, or something like that, and being reckless (and retired) I upgraded my vintage laptop to #Ubuntu 25.10 because why not, it was already broken from a few upgrades ago, and it was already clear #plasma on #x11 with my Radeon 570 was, well, not fun.
So down the list I go. Those of you on Mac or that other O/S ("little&soft"?) won't understand, but I went through each of the various desktops, just to see, not expecting a lot given my hardware.
Well, Ubuntu on Wayland works now, but, egad, it is ugly. Gnome and its Classic look, well, almost the same. One of the others is just a blank screen, but remember, my machine was already broken.
I ended up in #xfce which I hadn't used in, omg, never mind, only I'm thinking, hey old man, learn some new tricks! Need to add panel and some widgets and…
why is my panel's outline slowly blinking red? (left it in Add mode and buried the dialog box)
That beta? I'll rejoin after the bugfixing release of stable release number one.
On a different note: a quick switch of package set inside AerynOS (cool feature) showed me Gnome has all required functionality ootb. So on we go, I'll put that on the nuc today.
A new puzzle: normally in #XOrg I can blank the screen with "xset dpms force off" and with KDE/Plasma I could bind this to a hot key, but in Gnome #Ubuntu 25.10 using #XFCE4 it will work from inside a terminal, but as a hotkey it blanks, pauses, then refreshes the screens. Why would this be? Or perhaps, is there a prefered method to instantly blank all screens in XFCE-4? Not to lock, just to turn them off.